Tag: Murder-Suicide

Hey y’all, it’s Julie Mattson, and in this episode of Pushing Up Lilies, we’re diving into a heartbreaking case of love, betrayal, and murder. This is the story of Brandon and Rachel Dumovich, a couple who seemed to have it all, until their picture-perfect life took a deadly turn. What happens when the vows “till death do us part” become a grim reality? I’m walking you through the investigation, the shocking motive, and how one tragic decision shattered multiple lives. This case left an entire community stunned, and serves as a reminder that sometimes the greatest danger can lie within our own homes. Join me as we uncover the truth behind the Dumovich story, piece by chilling piece. * Listener discretion is advised. EPISODE TRANSCRIPT:00:06 Welcome to Pushing Up Lilies. I’m your host, Julie Mattson. Pushing Up Lilies is a weekly true crime podcast with spine tingling, unusual and terrifyingly true stories from my perspective as a forensic death investigator and a sexual assault nurse examiner.  00:24 Do I have some stories for you? Are you ready? Hi, y’all. We’re back for another week of Pushing Up Lilies and I can’t tell you again how well our first annual murder mystery dinner party went. We had around 35 people, I believe, actually show up.  00:48 The food was amazing. The waitstaff was amazing. I was greeted with the staff there and the management. They helped me set up and it was really, really fun. The murder mystery code that I hired to do the actual play was amazing.  01:07 It was a little more interactive than I thought it would be, and I was pleasantly surprised at how much fun everyone had. There was not one complaint. Everyone said they wanted to come back next year.  01:19 I’ve already secured a venue for next year and it actually holds 100 people. So, start thinking it’ll be in October again, probably around Halloween. It’s going to have a different theme every year. So, I’m already excited.  01:35 I’m already kind of in my head planning next year’s event. We had a lot of giveaways and thank you again to those who came and showed me support. We had a great raffle, and a lot of people won some wonderful prizes.  01:52 It was just so much fun. I wanted to follow up a little bit on a case that I covered several weeks ago. ago, the one about the schoolteacher, Ellen Greenberg. Ellen’s story, and I know that a lot of y’all have been following it, she was the young lady found in her locked apartment in January of 2011.  02:14 She had 20 stab wounds to her back, neck, and head. The knife was actually still lodged in her chest when her fiance, Samuel Goldberg, forced the door open and discovered her body. Now, initially, if y’all remember, Ellen’s death was ruled a homicide.  02:34 Seemed pretty obvious, that many stab wounds. But not long after, the ruling was changed to suicide. This is because investigators claim there were no signs of forced entry. There were no defensive wounds and no DNA from her fiancé on the knife.  02:56 But for years, Ellen’s parents, Josh and Sandy Greenberg, have fought to challenge the conclusion. They’ve raised questions about the evidence. Number one, the number and location of the wounds, the bruises, remember, and different stages on her body, the fact that the surveillance footage was missing, and even the 3D reconstruction that experts did say that self-infliction was impossible.  03:27 Their persistence paid off earlier this year when a settlement with the city of Philadelphia required that the police review the case again. And many hoped that that would bring clarity or even justice to Ellen.  03:41 But this week, the Philadelphia Medical Examiner’s Office announced that once again Ellen’s death is being rolled a suicide. The new report actually acknowledges that the injuries are unusual, but it does insist that Ellen could have inflicted them herself.  03:59 They actually cited her history of anxiety and the lack of DNA evidence linking anybody else to the crime. So, her family’s attorney called the review deeply flawed, and Ellen’s parents say that they’re heartbroken, but they’re not surprised, but guess what?  04:18 They’re not done fighting, and that’s what you do for your kids. For those who followed her story since the beginning, this latest ruling kind of feels like Deja vu. The case is closed, but it’s not really resolved.  04:33 It’s funny because I actually got a lot of messages, private messages, mostly on Facebook about this case, people who saw that it was changed back to suicide and who were just like floored. But floored by the fact that they think that this could be a suicide when you stab yourself 20 times.  04:52 And again, I’ve had someone shoot themself twice, but they… grazed themself the first time. These injuries were significant. I mean, there’s a lot of things that go into play when the pathologists are trying to determine the cause and manner of death.  05:08 And I would actually like to try to get one of our pathologists in Tarrant County on the podcast to discuss this case, to see what their thoughts are, just to hear it from their viewpoint. Because 20 times, I don’t see with the extent of these injuries and the depth of these injuries, how that’s possible.  05:29 I mean, I’m surprised by things every day, but it kind of blows me away. I will say that this story of Brandon and Rachel Dumovich has really got me a little perplexed. I’m not quite sure why they are not actually releasing the manner of death.  05:56 But let’s talk a little bit about this story. So, love stories begin with a spark and a laugh and a moment or a memory that stays with us forever. But sometimes those same stories end in ways that nobody could ever imagine.