In this episode, I’m digging into the unsettling story of Faye and Raymond Copeland—the oldest couple ever sentenced to death in the United States.
Teen Murderer: The Case That Shook Fairfax
Hey y’all, it’s Julie Mattson, your Forensic Nurse Death Investigator and host of Pushing Up Lilies. This week, we’re diving into a case that stunned an entire community, Fairfax, Virginia, where a teenage boy brutally took a life in a way no one could have imagined. I’ve seen a lot in my years of working crime scenes, but when someone so young commits such a calculated act of violence, it hits differently. In this episode, I’ll walk you through the chilling details of what happened, the shocking motive behind it all, and how the community, and law enforcement, responded to the horror that unfolded. Grab a blanket, turn down the lights, and let’s talk about the teen murderer who changed everything in Fairfax. * Listener discretion is advised. EPISODE TRANSCRIPT:00:06 Welcome to Pushing Up Lilies. I’m your host, Julie Mattson. Pushing Up Lilies is a weekly true crime podcast with spine tingling, unusual and terrifyingly true stories from my perspective as a forensic death investigator and a sexual assault nurse examiner. 00:24 Do I have some stories for you? Are you ready? Hey guys, welcome back. We’re here for another week and it’s been kind of a, I don’t want to say it too loud, a slow week at work so far. I mean yesterday was a little bit… a little bit busy. 00:46 We had a couple hospital deaths, some hospice deaths. Those you would think would be super quick, but many times a hospice death can take just as long as a case. I mean, there’s a lot of information to get. 01:02 It’s not always easily accessible, especially when the person is new to hospice. Many times, they’ve barely been admitted before they pass because, I mean, their prognosis is not good, right? So, we don’t expect them to live a lot longer, but sometimes they’re barely placed on hospice before they’re pronounced. 01:26 It’s always still sad though, because it’s close to the holidays and you know, you know that these families are going to be struggling to be without their family members for the holidays. So even though it’s expected, I know it doesn’t make it any easier for these families. 01:43 So, we just always try to remember that, you know, it’s every death is a loss of a person, and the families still have to survive. And it’s not always easy. Anyway, I’m so glad. that you’re here with me today you’re gonna hear one of the most shocking cases to come out of Ohio in years, and this is the murder of Sheila Tenpenny. 02:12 Sheila was only 64 years old she lived in Fairfax and she was very loved by her family. She was a second mother to her nieces and nephews, and she was known as someone who showed up for people and cared about people and we should all be that way but not everyone is. 02:36 Sheila was loved is what it sounds like. Her death was very sudden, her death was violent and it was carried out by a boy who lived nearby but the really sad part I mean it’s all sad, but he was only 13. 02:54 The case is disturbing and it raises real questions about premeditation at a very young age. It raises questions about warning signs, and it raises questions about what justice looks like when the suspect is a juvenile. 03:16 And it’s scary that kids think the way they think sometimes. And a lot of it could be related to social media and a lot of it could be related to what they’ve seen on television or just curiosity. But I want to walk you through this story step by step because you will hear what happened inside her home. 03:39 You’ll hear how investigators solve the case, what the boy researched before the murder. And you will hear the fear expressed by the lead investigator and also the pain carried by her family. Take a deep breath if you need it because this case might stay with you. 04:03 Sheila Tenpenny lived on Germania Street in Fairfax, Ohio. Sheila was 64 years old, very young as I get closer to that age. She was a sister. She was an aunt. And again, her family described her as nurturing. 04:24 Her nieces and nephews called her their second mother. She lived a very quiet life. She kept a peaceful home. There were no signs of turmoil, no disputes with her neighbors, nothing about her background, really put her at risk for being a murder victim. 04:45 Her home became the location of a brutal homicide, the kind of homicide that leaves the whole community shaken. This is the interesting part. The suspect lived nearby. He was only 13 at the time of this murder, and he was a juvenile with no criminal history at all. 05:08 His mother had concerns, she kept a journal, and she wrote that he was interested in serial killers. She sensed that something was not quite right, something was wrong, but she did not realize how far he’d gone. 05:27 Investigators later found out that he had spent months researching violent topics. So, he was looking at things like how to strangle someone. He looked at how to find the perfect victim. He searched for guidance on how to defeat a police interrogation. 05:48 Now that’s really scary too, because not only is he trying to find ways to do it, he’s asking for help finding a victim and ideas on how to trick the police. His online activity revealed deliberate planning. 06:06 It was not impulsive. It was not sudden. He obviously prepared for this. So, the night of the murder, this was February 2nd, between 2 and 5 in the morning, he entered Tenpenny’s home and he went through the front door. 06:25 She was asleep in her bed, and I know that I’d talk to y’all about the importance of locking
Eye Drops and Lies: The Richard Young Story
Hey y’all, it’s Julie Mattson, and in this week’s episode of Pushing Up Lilies, we’re diving into a heartbreaking case of betrayal that shocked the small town of Maquon, Illinois. This is the story of 71-year-old Police Chief Richard Young, a man who served his community with integrity and compassion. Even after retirement, he remained a mentor and protector to those around him. But behind closed doors, the person he trusted most, his longtime partner of 30 years, Marcy Oglesby, was slowly poisoning him. As Richard’s health began to fail in 2021, friends noticed the changes: dizziness, fatigue, erratic heart rhythms. But Richard dismissed it, leaning on the woman he loved, who was cooking his meals and preparing his drinks… with a hidden ingredient. It turns out, Marcy was slipping tetrahydrozoline, found in over-the-counter eye drops, into his food over a period of months. In today’s episode, I’ll walk you through the chilling details of this case, the toxicology behind the poison, and the shocking discovery made in a nearby storage unit that finally revealed the horrifying truth. * Listener discretion is advised. EPISODE TRANSCRIPT:00:06 Welcome to Pushing Up Lilies. I’m your host, Julie Matson. Pushing Up Lilies is a weekly true crime podcast with spine tingling, unusual and terrifyingly true stories from my perspective as a forensic death investigator and a sexual assault nurse examiner. 00:24 Do I have some stories for you? Are you ready? Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of Pushing Up Lilies. I wanted to say hello to all my new followers that I picked up from the CrimeCon 2026 Facebook page. 00:44 It’s so welcoming to post something and to just kind of share your podcast with other people who are going down the same road that you are trying to get into CrimeCon 2026, and I’ve already submitted my application. 01:00 I’ve tried to get in before and wasn’t able to. I’m kind of just trying to promote myself a little bit more so any help that you can give me would be much appreciated if you’re able to share my podcast, tell your friends about it. 01:14 Sharing it on your Facebook page helps a lot. For them to actually download it on Apple, Google, Pandora, iHeart, Spotify, all the different platforms, that’s what gets me recognition. So, if you like my Facebook page, thank you so much, but I need you to actually go to the platform and download it. 01:38 I have over 175 episodes there and I would love for you to listen to them. Of course, not all of them at one time. I mean if you could that’d be great, but a lot of the stories are local stories that I’ve worked, cases that I’ve been a part of. 01:56 Many of them are cases from all over the world. This week has been pretty busy. On Tuesday we are off for Veterans Day and so actually get the luxury of working from home, which is awesome. Some of the bigger offices don’t get that advantage because they have to be in the office all the time because bodies are coming in and bodies are going out and our office is small enough that we don’t actually have to have someone there all the time. 02:23 So, we do get the luxury of working from home when there’s a county holiday. Now we don’t have admin to answer the phone so many times it’s still busy, but I think the general public knows that we’re closed and so unless it’s an emergency they probably should not expect an answer from our office. 02:45 Of course, everyone always has the ability to contact dispatch and page the investigator on call. But you know that’s part of signing up for this job and just like being a nurse you know we knew when we did this that there would not be any days off unless we requested them. 03:02 Today I want to talk to you a little bit about police chief Richard Young. Now imagine a killer who doesn’t use a gun or a knife, there’s no forced entry, there’s no struggle, there’s just a few drops of something from the medicine cabinet. 03:23 Today we’re diving into a case where love turned lethal. A respected Illinois police chief was slowly poisoned to death by the woman he trusted the most and the weapon was ordinary eye drops. And I’d heard of this before, not this particular story, but I guess back when I was dating and there was so much fear of GHB and Rohypnol and date rape drugs and kidnapping and it was scary when you’d go out because you always feared that and you never left your drink, 04:01 you never set it down, you didn’t trust anybody with it. I had heard of people actually putting eye drops in people’s drinks and if you don’t give them too much you know it can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, those types of things but of course if you give them too much you can actually kill them. 04:20 But I’ve heard of cases of people getting sick from people putting visine in their drinks at bars. This is a story of 71 year old police chief Richard Young. Now Richard was poisoned over a period of months by his long-time partner 53 year old Marcy Oglesby. 04:45 Maquon, Illinois is a small quiet community, and Richard Young was its heart. So as police chief he protected and served with honesty and compassion. described him as loyal, devoted, and kind. Now, after retiring, as many officers do, he still helped his neighbors and mentored younger, new police officers. 05:14 He shared his life with Marcy Oglesby, and the two had been together for about 30 years. They lived across from a small storage facility, one that would later hold a horrifying secret. By summer of 2021, Richard’s health began to fail. 05:34 He was fatigued,
When the Camera Stops Rolling: The Murder of Anita Avers
Hi y’all, it’s Julie Mattson, and this week on Pushing Up Lilies, we’re diving into a shocking and heartbreaking case that’s rocked both the media and the public – former news anchor Angie Mock, is accused of the unthinkable: the brutal murder of her own mother. This 80-year-old woman, once lovingly cared for by her daughter, was allegedly stabbed to death in what investigators are calling a horrific and violent crime. The suspect? Her own daughter, a familiar face once trusted to deliver our daily news. What pushes someone over the edge? Could this tragedy have been prevented? And what signs, if any, were missed? Join me as we peel back the layers of this devastating case and explore the complexities of family, mental health, and the pressures that sometimes build silently behind closed doors. * Listener discretion is advised. EPISODE TRANSCRIPT:00:06 Welcome to Pushing Up Lilies. I’m your host, Julie Mattson. Pushing Up Lilies is a weekly true crime podcast with spine tingling, unusual and terrifyingly true stories from my perspective as a forensic death investigator and a sexual assault nurse examiner. 00:24 Do I have some stories for you? Are you ready? Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Pushing Up Lilies. We just got back from North Dakota, so we were there for like three days and had so much fun. 00:41 We attended a wedding. My husband’s cousin, Brendan Matson and Adriana got married and so it’s a beautiful ceremony and we always love the opportunity to go back to North Dakota and visit friends and family. 00:58 So, it was a lot of fun. There were a lot of people we didn’t get to see because apparently the weather there has been bad and a lot of people are behind combining and I don’t understand the whole farming thing, but they’re evidently trying to get soybeans combined. 01:19 So anyway, we didn’t get to see everybody that we wanted to see, but we saw quite a few people and had a great time. We like to go up there a couple of times a year. We haven’t been as frequently since my mother-in-law passed, but we love to go to Minot to the state fair and we saw Jelly Roll a couple years ago and I think he was there again this past year and so they always have really good acts. 01:46 So if you ever get a chance to go up to Minot, North Dakota to the state fair, we also got engaged in Deadwood and so around state fair time we like to hit the fair in Minot and then head up to Deadwood and are over to Deadwood. 02:02 I don’t know what direction it is but do some gambling and it’s just a cute little town. I love it. It’s really adorable little town. There’s a lot of good food, a lot of casinos, so we love to do that. 02:16 But it was a great time and we’re looking forward to fair season so we can go back. This past week, our office suffered a loss. Our chief medical examiner in Johnson County, who is also kind of under the umbrella of Tarrant County, passed away. 02:37 He had been ill and had been in the hospital. So, Gary Morris, we are praying for his family, and I know it’s hard for everyone in their office. He was such a great mentor to so many people and just an overall nice guy. 02:56 But he will be greatly missed, and I did not get to go to the funeral. I felt terrible, but I had to work that day. I was supposed to work that day, but I was actually out sick last week. So, prayers out to Gary and to his family in Johnson County. 03:14 I know it’s going to be hard to adjust to him being gone. In other news, I mean, pretty much nothing going on here. I think we had a couple of homicides while I was out. I was off yesterday because we just got home yesterday, but I always look forward to going into the office and reading some reports because they’re very interesting, as you can imagine. 03:37 So, I will do that this morning and try to catch up on the news because I have no idea what’s going on in the county. And gosh, I can’t think that there’s anything else going on. I feel like it’s so rushed like October, November, December. 03:54 I don’t know if y’all do, but I mean, I don’t sleep great all the time. And so, I guess two nights ago, I was in a hotel in Fargo and I couldn’t sleep. So, in the middle of the night, I got online and I ordered pies for Thanksgiving, and I ordered a turkey and a ham from Honey baked Ham’s. 04:13 And so, it’s kind of funny how certain things cross your mind in the middle of the night. It’s like, oh, you know, if I can do this now, lying here and not busy and not preoccupied. Although, apparently, I was half asleep, wasn’t paying too close attention because I freaking ordered two hams and two turkeys. 04:32 So, I’m going to have to call them today and let them know that I only need one. There’s not that many of us. I don’t know how I did it. And I should have known when it was $200 that something was wrong. 04:43 But of course, it was three in the morning. And so, I just paid it and went about my merry way and went back to sleep. And then when I woke up, I realized that I ordered two turkeys and two hams. I did order some delicious 04:59 pies though. So, I’m always excited. I always forget I’m not really a baker. I wish I was. I just don’t have a lot of time to cook. And I