In this episode of Pushing Up Lilies, I’m examining the heartbreaking murder of 32-year-old Caroline Piña Cairo, a mother of five whose life was taken in a brutal daylight attack that stunned the Del Rio, Texas community. When Caroline arrived at the hospital suffering from multiple stab wounds, medical teams fought to save her life. Despite their efforts, she later succumbed to her injuries. Three women were arrested and charged with her murder, but many questions surrounding the case remain unanswered as the investigation continues. As a forensic death investigator and former emergency room nurse, I walk through what happens in the critical moments after a stabbing victim arrives at the hospital, why injuries like these can be far more severe than they first appear, and how investigators begin reconstructing a violent crime through witness statements, surveillance footage, forensic evidence, and medical findings. I also discuss why it’s so important to separate verified facts from speculation while a case is still unfolding. But more than anything, I want to remember Caroline. She wasn’t simply the victim in a headline. She was a mother, a friend, and someone remembered for her generosity and the kindness she showed others, even during difficult times in her own life. Behind every investigation is a family whose world has been forever changed, and five children who will grow up without their mother. This episode contains discussion of homicide, stabbing violence, and death. Listener discretion is advised. EPISODE TRANSCRIPT:
Amy Steadman and the Mechanicville Family Deaths
In this episode of Pushing Up Lilies, I’m covering the heartbreaking case involving Amy Steadman and the tragic family deaths that shook the community of Mechanicville, New York. Cases involving multiple family members are among the most emotionally difficult for investigators, first responders, and the communities left searching for answers. As details emerged, investigators were faced with the complex task of piecing together what happened inside a home where several lives were lost, while loved ones struggled to make sense of an unimaginable tragedy. As a forensic death investigator, I discuss the investigative process behind cases like this, the importance of carefully documenting the scene, evaluating the evidence without assumptions, and understanding how investigators work to reconstruct the events that led to such devastating outcomes. I also explore the emotional toll these cases can have, not only on surviving family members, but on the professionals responsible for uncovering the truth. But beyond the investigation, I want to remember the people at the center of this story. Behind every report are individuals whose lives mattered, families forever changed, and a community left grieving. Every death investigation is about more than determining what happened, it’s about honoring those who can no longer speak for themselves and seeking answers with compassion, professionalism, and respect. This episode contains discussion of family violence, homicide, and death. Listener discretion is advised. EPISODE TRANSCRIPT: 00:06 Welcome to Pushing Up Lilies. I’m your host, Julie Mattson. Pushing Up Lilies is a weekly true crime podcast with spine-tingling, unusual, and terrifyingly true stories from my perspective as a forensic death investigator and a sexual assault nurse examiner. 00:24 Do I have some stories for you? Are you ready? Welcome to another episode of Pushing Up Lilies. I’m so happy that y’all joined us today. Still recovering from all the CrimeCon stuff. My items that I had there were boxed up and shipped back to me, and I just got them all back. 00:46 So, I’m trying to get them into my store at the Mercantile in Krum. Thank you for being patient with me. My plan was to try to do that today, but I ended up having to make a doctor’s appointment. So, it’s been kind of crazy. 00:58 Clinical tomorrow and then meds fall, med spa, and, you know, the routine. Trying to keep my head afloat while I’m finishing school. I’ve got one month left of this semester. So, I get a month and a half off and then I have two more small three-month semesters finished or left. 01:18 So hopefully it will go quickly. It seems like so far away, but I know that these days’ time flies super-fast. I want to make sure that y’all have a super safe 4th of July. I know at the medical examiner’s office, we would always frequently have drownings during the holidays when everyone’s at the lake and having their hold my beer and watch this moment. 01:41 So, keep a close eye on your friends. And my biggest thing is don’t always assume that your friends that can swim don’t still need to be watched because if they’re drinking or if they’re not super healthy, they could have a medical emergency in the water. 02:02 There are, in many cases, free life jackets available at the lakes. So, everyone in your boat should have one. There’s just a lot of ways to think ahead about how to be safe and prevent accidents and injuries and deaths. 02:19 Just kind of keep that in your head when you’re going to the lake or even when you’re just outside in the heat. Take water. Stay hydrated. We don’t want a bunch of heat strokes going on. Think about your health and the health of the others with you. 02:32 And that will help tremendously in preventing deaths and accidents and injuries. So, okay, that’s my spiel. Gonna get into this week’s episode. This week, I want to talk to you a little bit about the case regarding Amy Steadman, and this is the Mechanicville family deaths. 02:51 Now, this happened on June 23rd, so it wasn’t that long ago. This year, police in Mechanicville, New York responded to a wellness check at an apartment on Harris Avenue. Now, a neighbor had grown worried. 03:05 The family had not been seen, and the air around the apartment smelled wrong, and flies were gathering. And we’ve talked about this before when someone’s in their home, haven’t been seen in a while. They call the police for a welfare check, and it smells bad. 03:23 I mean, you’ve smelled an animal that has been decaying in the road or in the ditch, and it’s just not a pleasant smell. Those details actually matter in death investigation. Odor and flies, they tell you, obviously, that time has passed. 03:40 They tell you that something inside has changed, and they tell you that the body or bodies are no longer in an early stage of death, but they are decomposing. So, when officers actually entered Amy Steadman’s apartment, they found six people dead. 03:58 Amy Steadman was 64. Her daughter, Sarah Myers, was 44. Sarah’s daughter, Harper Harmon, was 13. Sarah’s son, Hudson Harmon, was 11. And Sarah’s 10-year-old twins were Gavin Harmon and Gracelyn Harmon. 04:17 So, all six were found inside Amy’s apartment. And even though Sarah and the children actually lived in a separate unit in the same apartment complex. Police later said that the deaths appeared criminal and evidence suggested intentional poisoning. 04:35 Investigators also said that one of the children had suffered fatal sharp force injuries. So, a handwritten note found inside the home strongly pointed towards Amy Stedman. According to the police, that’s just what they said. 04:51 Toxicology results and final medical examiner findings were still pending when these details were released. Today we’re talking about what police believe Amy Steadman did. So, we’re talking about the crime scene and the poisoning, sharp force injury,
The State of Texas vs Karmelo Anthony
In last week’s episode, I explored the tragic death of 17-year-old Austin Metcalf and the events that unfolded during a high school track meet in Frisco, Texas. This week, I’m following the case into the courtroom as we examine The State of Texas vs. Karmelo Anthony. During this episode, I’ll walk through the key moments of the trial, the arguments presented by both the prosecution and defense, and the jury’s ultimate decision. We’ll discuss the self-defense claim raised by the defense, the testimony presented during the proceedings, and the factors that may have influenced the outcome. I’ll also review the sentencing phase and the emotional victim impact statements delivered by Austin’s family. As always, my goal is not to sensationalize tragedy, but to help listeners better understand the investigative and legal processes that follow a violent death. Cases like this often generate strong opinions and intense public discussion, but inside the courtroom, decisions must be based on evidence, testimony, and the law. Join me as we take a closer look at one of the most closely watched criminal trials in recent Texas history and examine the legal journey from a fatal encounter to a murder conviction. EPISODE TRANSCRIPT: 00:06 Welcome to Pushing Up Lilies. I’m your host, Julie Mattson. Pushing Up Lilies is a weekly true crime podcast with spine-tingling, unusual, and terrifyingly true stories from my perspective as a forensic death investigator and a sexual assault nurse examiner. 00:24 Do I have some stories for you? Are you ready? Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Pushing Up Lilies. Super excited. This is my 202nd episode. And I just want to thank everyone at the Louisville Police Department. 00:48 I spoke with their volunteers last night and I do it frequently, probably, I don’t know, once or twice a year. But it is so fun to go and visit with them. They love to hear about death investigations and exactly what death investigators do. 01:06 And it’s such an amazing group of people. And they donate so much of their time. Big shout out to that group for having me and making me feel welcome. I went into the new Louisville Police Department and it’s beautiful. 01:20 I’ve not been into the new building yet. I know that many of the officers were wondering how long it was going to take before they could get moved in, but it’s really pretty. Thank you again. I appreciate y’all so much. 01:33 This week, I need to touch on the Austin Metcalf case. I covered the Karmelo Anthony trial last week, and I just need to give y’all updates because this is in my area. It’s right down the street. So last week we talked about Karmelo Anthony, a student in Centennial High School here in Frisco. 01:55 He was charged with first degree murder back in April of 2025 for stabbing 17-year-old Austin Metcalf during a high school track meet. And one of the biggest controversies occurred before the testimony even began. 02:10 This was when the jury was chosen because the final jury actually consisted of 12 jurors and there were six alternates, but there were no black jurors seated despite Karmelo Anthony being black. Not a big deal, right, to me, just because color to me is not important. 02:33 But defense attorneys actually challenged the prosecution’s removal of several black prospective jurors, arguing that there was racial bias. Prosecutors actually stated that those jurors were struck because they were educators. 02:50 It had nothing to do with race. And the judge sided with the prosecution. And of course, outside of the courthouse, supporters of Anthony and Metcalf gathered, and tensions ran a little bit high. Wouldn’t want to be in the area during that time. 03:10 On day one, the opening statements took place. The lead prosecutor told jurors that they would see evidence showing that Anthony actually initiated the confrontation and used a concealed knife during what would have been a minor disagreement over seating under a team tent. 03:32 Now, prosecutors argued that the stabbing was intentional and that it was not at all justified. Now, as far as the defense position, defense attorney Mike Howard said that Anthony found himself surrounded and frightened. 03:51 And the defense told jurors that Anthony acted on a split second during a chaotic confrontation and that he believed he was in danger. Their theme from the very beginning was self-defense. The prosecution’s first witness was Mark Porter, and he’s a forensic video analyst. 04:13 Porter actually walked jurors through the surveillance footage from multiple cameras around the stadium. Prosecutors argued the footage showed Anthony entering the tent area, a confrontation occurring, and then Anthony leaving immediately afterwards. 04:33 Now, jurors also saw body camera footage and surveillance evidence at that time. On day two, eyewitnesses took the stand. There were several teenage witnesses and friends of Austin Metcalf’s who testified. 04:51 According to reports, those witnesses consistently described Karmelo Anthony as the aggressor. Their testimony centered really on the argument beneath the tent, Anthony’s refusal to move, and the rapid escalation that followed after that. 05:11 Multiple witnesses described Anthony producing a knife during the confrontation. This was one of the most emotional days of the testimony because many witnesses personally knew Austin Metcalfe. And so you can only imagine how difficult that would be, especially for kids in high school. 05:31 Jurors also heard details about Austin’s final moments after the stabbing, which was also, I’m sure, very difficult to hear. Now, day three, the prosecution continued calling witnesses. Jurors heard from investigators, law enforcement officers, coaches, and also others involved in the aftermath immediately after the stabbing. 05:57 Now, one significant piece of testimony involved Anthony’s statements after the stabbing and body camera footage showed Anthony telling officers he put his hands on me. Now, that statement really became important because the defense argued it supported self-defense, while prosecutors argued that it did not justify
One Final Moment: The Tragic Death of Austin Metcalf
In this episode of Pushing Up Lilies, I’m covering the heartbreaking case of 17-year-old Austin Metcalf, a high school student whose life was tragically cut short during what should have been an ordinary day at a track meet. In April 2025, a confrontation between two young men at a Frisco, Texas, athletic event ended in an act of violence that shocked a community and made headlines across the country. What began as a disagreement escalated in a matter of moments, leaving one family grieving the loss of a son, brother, friend, and teammate. As a forensic death investigator, I walk through the known timeline of events, the investigation that followed, and the legal proceedings involving Karmelo Anthony. I also discuss the difficult realities surrounding youth violence, split-second decisions, and the devastating consequences that can follow. But as with every case I cover, I want to keep the focus where it belongs. On Austin. On the life he lived, the people who loved him, and the future that was taken from him far too soon. This episode is approached with compassion and respect for everyone affected by this tragedy. Beyond the headlines, this is the story of a young life lost and a community forever changed. This episode contains discussion of violence, homicide, and the death of a minor. Listener discretion is advised. EPISODE TRANSCRIPT: 00:06 Welcome to Pushing Up Lilies. I’m your host, Julie Mattson. Pushing Up Lilies is a weekly true crime podcast with spine-tingling, unusual, and terrifyingly true stories from my perspective as a forensic death investigator and a sexual assault nurse examiner. 00:24 Do I have some stories for you? Are you ready? Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Pushing Up Lilies. I just want to say how much fun I had at CrimeCon this past weekend in Vegas. Caesar’s Palace is huge. 00:44 I had been there before, but I guess I never really truly walked around. It’s humongous. The area where they had the convention was kind of spread out and there wasn’t a lot of signage. I think the only complaint that we had was that there was no opportunity to get like a soda or a cup of coffee without walking way over from where we were all the way back into Caesar’s Palace. 01:14 And so, it’s kind of difficult to get around. Next year is going to be in Orlando in September. So, we’re already super excited about that. But I’m not going to lie. I think I’m going to drive because shipping for all my merch was ridiculous crazy. 01:30 And then I had to pay over $1,000 to have it stored before CrimeCon started. And then, of course, you have to pay for them to bring it to you. And then you have to ship back what you didn’t sell. And so, when you add all that up, you’re looking at thousands of dollars. 01:49 I know we’ve talked about this before. Podcasting really doesn’t pay. When you don’t have sponsors like a lot of us do or do not, then it’s a pretty big expense considering the fact that you’ve already taken off work to be there. 02:04 So, it had its challenges, but overall, it was amazing. We met so many nice people and I was able to pick the brain of a lot of people that have been podcasting a lot longer than me. It’s always educational and it’s such a great community because everyone really tries to help each other. 02:25 It’s not like a dog eat dog where, you know, I want to get big before you do. It’s a community of people. And I love that. We all come from different angles. We all have different experiences. We all tell stories a little bit different. 02:42 And it’s okay. There’s room for everybody. A lot of true crime lovers. I was super humbled by the number of people that came by my booth wanting my autograph and wanting my picture with them. I have a sweet little lady from California who actually said that she crochets while she’s listening to my podcast and she crocheted me a magnifying glass and it was so sweet. 03:09 It had like a little hook on it where I could like hang it on my Christmas tree. I think I’m going to do a little true crime Christmas tree in my office this year just because I think it’s neat. I thought that was amazing. 03:20 And so, I just… I love meeting people. I had a lot of people come by and say, you’re my favorite. You’re my favorite true crime podcast. I listen to you every week. And that just makes me feel so good. 03:31 Like I said, we’re all like just so humbled by this. We definitely didn’t do this to become well known or anything like that. I just like to educate. And then it helps me vent because again, like I told a lot of people, when I would come home from work after a rough day, my kids didn’t want to hear how my day went and what I did. 03:53 And my husband didn’t either. It’s a lot of trauma that you carry with you when you work in this field. You know, police officers, firefighters, EMS, people that work at the funeral home, last responders, first responders, the medical examiner’s office. 04:09 So, it’s heavy and it’s a lot of weight. And you don’t always get to decompress. And it’s really hard after you’ve had a rough day to go home and just like go to bed. And sometimes you just need to vent and talk about it. 04:25 Anyway, absolutely loved our time at CrimeCon. Hoping to go to Crime Cruise in November. We’re going to have to see how school works out for me and how I’m going to make that happen because I will be in the middle of a semester. 04:40 But
When the Camera Stops Rolling: The Murder of Anita Avers
Hi y’all, it’s Julie Mattson, and this week on Pushing Up Lilies, we’re diving into a shocking and heartbreaking case that’s rocked both the media and the public – former news anchor Angie Mock, is accused of the unthinkable: the brutal murder of her own mother. This 80-year-old woman, once lovingly cared for by her daughter, was allegedly stabbed to death in what investigators are calling a horrific and violent crime. The suspect? Her own daughter, a familiar face once trusted to deliver our daily news. What pushes someone over the edge? Could this tragedy have been prevented? And what signs, if any, were missed? Join me as we peel back the layers of this devastating case and explore the complexities of family, mental health, and the pressures that sometimes build silently behind closed doors. * Listener discretion is advised. EPISODE TRANSCRIPT:00:06 Welcome to Pushing Up Lilies. I’m your host, Julie Mattson. Pushing Up Lilies is a weekly true crime podcast with spine tingling, unusual and terrifyingly true stories from my perspective as a forensic death investigator and a sexual assault nurse examiner. 00:24 Do I have some stories for you? Are you ready? Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Pushing Up Lilies. We just got back from North Dakota, so we were there for like three days and had so much fun. 00:41 We attended a wedding. My husband’s cousin, Brendan Matson and Adriana got married and so it’s a beautiful ceremony and we always love the opportunity to go back to North Dakota and visit friends and family. 00:58 So, it was a lot of fun. There were a lot of people we didn’t get to see because apparently the weather there has been bad and a lot of people are behind combining and I don’t understand the whole farming thing, but they’re evidently trying to get soybeans combined. 01:19 So anyway, we didn’t get to see everybody that we wanted to see, but we saw quite a few people and had a great time. We like to go up there a couple of times a year. We haven’t been as frequently since my mother-in-law passed, but we love to go to Minot to the state fair and we saw Jelly Roll a couple years ago and I think he was there again this past year and so they always have really good acts. 01:46 So if you ever get a chance to go up to Minot, North Dakota to the state fair, we also got engaged in Deadwood and so around state fair time we like to hit the fair in Minot and then head up to Deadwood and are over to Deadwood. 02:02 I don’t know what direction it is but do some gambling and it’s just a cute little town. I love it. It’s really adorable little town. There’s a lot of good food, a lot of casinos, so we love to do that. 02:16 But it was a great time and we’re looking forward to fair season so we can go back. This past week, our office suffered a loss. Our chief medical examiner in Johnson County, who is also kind of under the umbrella of Tarrant County, passed away. 02:37 He had been ill and had been in the hospital. So, Gary Morris, we are praying for his family, and I know it’s hard for everyone in their office. He was such a great mentor to so many people and just an overall nice guy. 02:56 But he will be greatly missed, and I did not get to go to the funeral. I felt terrible, but I had to work that day. I was supposed to work that day, but I was actually out sick last week. So, prayers out to Gary and to his family in Johnson County. 03:14 I know it’s going to be hard to adjust to him being gone. In other news, I mean, pretty much nothing going on here. I think we had a couple of homicides while I was out. I was off yesterday because we just got home yesterday, but I always look forward to going into the office and reading some reports because they’re very interesting, as you can imagine. 03:37 So, I will do that this morning and try to catch up on the news because I have no idea what’s going on in the county. And gosh, I can’t think that there’s anything else going on. I feel like it’s so rushed like October, November, December. 03:54 I don’t know if y’all do, but I mean, I don’t sleep great all the time. And so, I guess two nights ago, I was in a hotel in Fargo and I couldn’t sleep. So, in the middle of the night, I got online and I ordered pies for Thanksgiving, and I ordered a turkey and a ham from Honey baked Ham’s. 04:13 And so, it’s kind of funny how certain things cross your mind in the middle of the night. It’s like, oh, you know, if I can do this now, lying here and not busy and not preoccupied. Although, apparently, I was half asleep, wasn’t paying too close attention because I freaking ordered two hams and two turkeys. 04:32 So, I’m going to have to call them today and let them know that I only need one. There’s not that many of us. I don’t know how I did it. And I should have known when it was $200 that something was wrong. 04:43 But of course, it was three in the morning. And so, I just paid it and went about my merry way and went back to sleep. And then when I woke up, I realized that I ordered two turkeys and two hams. I did order some delicious 04:59 pies though. So, I’m always excited. I always forget I’m not really a baker. I wish I was. I just don’t have a lot of time to cook. And I
The Mysterious Death of Ellen Greenberg
On today’s episode, we explore the heartbreaking story of the Hart family murder-suicide. On March 26th, 2018, the family’s SUV was found at the bottom of a cliff in California, with the bodies of all eight family members inside.
The Killing of Iryna Zarutska
On today’s episode, we explore the heartbreaking story of the Hart family murder-suicide. On March 26th, 2018, the family’s SUV was found at the bottom of a cliff in California, with the bodies of all eight family members inside.
Trail of Tragedy: The Devil’s Den Murders
In this episode, we’re diving into the disturbing and heartbreaking case of Sarah Harris, a young woman whose life was tragically cut short by the actions of her much older boyfriend, oral surgeon James Ryan.
Cold Medicine Murder: The Case of Matthew and Lauren Phelps
In this episode, I’m diving into the chilling case of Matthew Phelps, who was charged with murder on September 1st after allegedly stabbing his wife, Lauren Ashley-Nicole Phelps, to death. The shocking twist? He claimed that cold medicine caused him to commit this unspeakable act.
