The Death of Barrett Walsh: Psychosis, a Murder Charge, and the Lindsay Clancy Connection
When I first started looking into the death of two-year-old Barrett Walsh, one detail immediately stood out to me: his mother, Corie Walsh, had reportedly been closely following the Lindsay Clancy trial and discussing it with friends just hours before Barrett was found. The similarities between the two cases are difficult to ignore. Both involve mothers accused of killing young children inside their family homes, suicide attempts, ligatures, and defenses centered around severe mental illness or psychosis. But similarities aren’t evidence, and they certainly don’t prove that one case inspired another. In this episode of Pushing Up Lilies, I want to slow the story down and look beyond that headline. Barrett, whose nickname was Bear, was found in the basement of his Illinois home with a ligature around his neck. A neighbor lowered him, began CPR, and called 911. Corie was found elsewhere in the home with injuries believed to be self-inflicted. Prosecutors have since charged her with three counts of first-degree murder, while her attorneys say she was experiencing a psychotic episode. From a death investigator’s perspective, though, those facts are only the beginning. I’m taking you through how I would approach a scene like this: documenting Barrett’s original position before lifesaving efforts changed the scene, examining the ligature and suspension point, preserving digital evidence, reconstructing the timeline, documenting medications and other evidence inside the home, and separating what witnesses actually observed from what they interpreted. We’ll also talk about Corie’s reported statements, the role mental illness may ultimately play in her defense, and why investigators have to be extremely careful about confirmation bias. If you walk into a case already believing it’s a Lindsay Clancy copycat, every message, search, and piece of evidence risks being interpreted through that assumption. There is still a great deal we don’t know. As of the recording of this episode, the final autopsy and toxicology findings had not been publicly released, the digital investigation was still incomplete, and Corie Walsh had not gone to trial. She remains presumed innocent unless and until the charges against her are proven in court. And through all of this, I don’t want Barrett to become a footnote in a story about his mother or the Lindsay Clancy comparison. He was two years old. His nickname was Bear. He deserved protection in life, and in death, he deserves an investigation built on facts, accuracy, and dignity. Content Note: This episode discusses the death of a child, ligature asphyxia, self-harm, alleged homicide, suicide, and severe mental illness. EPISODE TRANSCRIPT: 00:06 Welcome to Pushing Up Lilies. I’m your host, Julie Mattson. 00:10 Pushing Up Lilies is a weekly true crime podcast with spine-tingling, unusual, and terrifyingly true stories from my perspective as a forensic death investigator and a sexual assault nurse examiner. 00:24 Do I have some stories for you? Are you ready? Hey, guys, I’m coming to you from my closet again tonight. I wanna tell you a little bit about a case that I’ve been investigating. 00:39 It does allege violence against a child, self-harm, severe mental illness. So again, I like to say this at the very beginning, decide right now whether listening to this is right for you or not. 00:54 This is a case about Corie Walsh. Now, I don’t know if y’all have heard of Corie. It has a lot of clear parallels to Lindsay Clancy. 01:03 There’s also a lot of differences, so we’re gonna kinda talk about that. 01:06 Both of the cases, of course, involve mothers accused of killing a young child or children inside a family home, followed by a suicide attempt. 01:17 Now, mental illness also sits on the center of both of these defenses. Clancy’s attorney said that she was suffering from postpartum psychosis and that she was not criminally responsible. 01:29 Now, Walsh’s attorney, who’s Andrea Lyon is her name, she says that Walsh experienced just a psychotic episode. Now, the biggest difference is what authorities say about the mental states. 01:42 In Walsh’s case, prosecutors said that she told investigators that she believed that two-year-old Barrett was the devil and the Antichrist, and her attorney says that this supports the fact that she was psychotic at the time. 01:57 Now, Clancy’s case is a little bit different. 01:59 As we all know, the dispute at trial focused heavily on whether or not she understood the nature of her actions despite the fact that she had psychiatric illness. 02:11 We know that she had a psychiatric illness, but did she understand what she did? Did she know that it was wrong? Now, there’s another real unusual connection between these two cases. 02:23 Walsh had been, strangely enough, very invested in the Clancy trial, and so she had been texting friends about the Clancy trial hours before Barrett was found. 02:34 Now, that makes the comparison really interesting. 02:37 But still, it has not been established that Clancy’s case caused or inspired Barrett’s killing, and so Walsh’s defense strongly rejects the idea that this was a copycat crime. 02:53 Now, I know I talked about this last week. I’m always fearful when I watch a movie that somebody’s gonna be like, “Hey, that looks like a good idea. Let’s do that. Let’s try that. 03:02 I’ve always wanted to do it.” Most of the time, criminals have probably already got in their mind what they wanna do, but the stories always kinda scare me that somebody’s gonna jump out and be like, “I wanna try that.” Now, the outcomes of these two cases are also at very different stages. 03:18 As we all know, Clancy admitted to killing the three children. Her trial that recently ended in a mistrial because the jury failed to reach a unanimous verdict. 03:28 Now, Walsh has only recently been charged, so the allegations against her have not been tested. She’s not gone to trial. We don’t know what’s happening with this one. 03:37 Now, the really compelling question, was she copying
The Death of Aria Talathi: When a Drowning Scene Tells a Different Story
Sometimes a death scene seems to tell you exactly what happened. A child is found submerged in a swimming pool, and the immediate assumption is drowning. But as a death investigator, I’ve learned that where someone is found doesn’t necessarily tell us where, or how, they died. In this episode of Pushing Up Lilies, I’m taking you through the case of four-year-old Aria Talathi, who was found in the deep end of a swimming pool at a short-term rental in Florida while traveling with her mother, Dr. Neha Gupta. What initially appeared to be a devastating childhood drowning became something very different when investigators began looking more closely at the physical evidence. According to the arrest affidavit discussed in this episode, investigators said Aria’s lungs and stomach were considered dry, while the examination also documented cuts inside her mouth and bruising along the insides of her cheeks. Authorities alleged those injuries raised the possibility that she had been smothered and was already dead before being placed in the pool. I’ll take you behind the scenes of how I would approach a death investigation like this, including what I would photograph, what questions I would ask, how I would build the timeline, and why something as simple as a door latch, an undisturbed bed, a phone record, or the contents of a stomach can become important. And there’s something I don’t want us to lose in all of the forensic details: Aria was four years old. Before her name appeared in an arrest affidavit or became part of a murder case, she was a little girl who went to the beach, rode jet skis, and traveled with her mother. Her life deserves to remain at the center of this story. I also begin this episode with a brief update on the Lindsay Clancy case following the September 4 mistrial and what may happen next. Content Note: This episode discusses the death of a child, possible smothering/asphyxiation, drowning, and alleged homicide. EPISODE TRANSCRIPT: 00:06 Welcome to Pushing Up Lilies. I’m your host, Julie Mattson. 00:10 Pushing Up Lilies is a weekly true crime podcast with spine-tingling, unusual, and terrifyingly true stories from my perspective as a forensic death investigator and a sexual assault nurse examiner. 00:24 Do I have some stories for you? Are you ready? Hey, guys. Welcome back to another episode of Pushing Up Lilies. Guess what? The humidity in Mexico makes my hair wavy. That’s new to me. 00:40 I never knew that that happened, but I’m coming at you this week from Costa Mujeres, about 20 miles north of Cancun, and we are at the Majestic Elegance Resort. It’s beautiful here. 00:54 It’s a five-star resort that we just happened to find on American Airlines’… what is it? American Airlines Vacations. And so, we leave tomorrow, which I hate, because it’s been kinda nice. 01:06 Super warm and humid today, but this place has amazing food, and so we’ve loved our stay here. You might hear some random noises during my recording. 01:16 For some reason, it sounds like there’s a herd of elephants upstairs, so I don’t know what’s going on up there. 01:21 But wanted to remind you of a few things before I start talking about this week’s episode. 01:27 First of all, don’t forget October 10th is gonna be our second annual Murder Mystery Dinner at Studio 141 in Crump. It’s going to be so much fun. It’s gonna be a blast for everybody. 01:41 You know, there are gonna be a lot of true crime lovers there, so you’re gonna have a lot in common with the people who are attending. 01:47 Jan Bynum is gonna be our guest speaker, and her daughter was Kelly Anne Cox, the UNT student that was abducted and murdered back in 1997. 01:58 And then catered by Our Blended Table, who has delicious food. And so, it’s goanna be right next door to The Merc in Crump, and then we will have merchandise available there. Some new stuff. 02:10 I got some really new stuff that y’all are gonna absolutely love. October 24th is gonna be the Day of the Dead Festival in Downtown Denton. Again, I’m not racing this year. 02:20 I’m just gonna have a vendor table but have some super cute Day of the Dead stickers that I had made for that event. So y’all are gonna love that. 02:29 And then in the end of November, I’ll be at the Texas EMS Conference, where I will be giving advice to EMS and firefighters on how to preserve scenes when forensics is involved. 02:42 I know us death investigators talk about that all the time, how we need to educate first responders on forensics in general and how to preserve evidence, even though saving the life is definitely the most important thing. 02:57 But there are also some things to just take into account whenever you are at the hospital, in the ER, seeing a patient who has been shot or has been in an accident, what to do, what not to do type stuff, just to be helpful, just so that we can all be cohesive on our investigation, because there may or may not be an investigation following a patient being transported by EMS or being seen in the emergency room. 03:27 Just things to kinda help so we can all work together. And then I’m still trying to decide on the Crime Cruise. I haven’t really decided on that yet. I don’t know. 03:36 But I am still really looking forward to Crime Con in Florida, in Orlando, in September of 2027. 03:45 So, a lot of stuff going on, and I’m trying to get better about thinking ahead in advance, but I do wanna thank y’all. 03:53 I’ve been getting a lot of orders from my merch store and a lot of orders for the cereal box. 04:01 I love how people are ordering the Serial box for their
The Lindsay Clancy Trial: The Case Is Now in the Jury’s Hands
The Lindsay Clancy trial has reached one of its most important moments. The witnesses are finished, both sides have made their closing arguments, and now twelve jurors are left to decide what happened inside that home on January 24, 2023, and whether Lindsay was criminally responsible when Cora, Dawson, and Callan died. In this episode of Pushing Up Lilies, I’m taking you through the final stretch of testimony without making you sit through every minute of psychiatrists and psychologists arguing over diagnoses. Because, y’all, even I recorded that version, and decided I wasn’t going to do that to you. Instead, I want to focus on what actually matters. The Commonwealth brought in its final three experts, and while none of them suggested Lindsay was well or that her suicide attempt wasn’t real, they disagreed with the defense over two critical issues: whether she was psychotic and whether she still had the capacity to understand that what she was doing was wrong. We’ll also talk about the moment religion entered the testimony and the defense asked for a mistrial, what happened during closing arguments, and the five possible decisions the jury can reach for each child, including what a finding of lack of criminal responsibility would actually mean. As a forensic nurse death investigator, I keep coming back to something I learned working scenes: evidence doesn’t narrate itself. Phones, medications, searches, timelines, medical records and witness statements give us pieces. It’s investigators, experts, attorneys, and ultimately jurors, who have to determine what those pieces mean. And that is exactly where this case now sits. The jury doesn’t have to decide whether Lindsay suffered. Every expert agreed that she did. Their job is to determine whether the Commonwealth proved criminal responsibility beyond a reasonable doubt. And while we talk about mental illness, diagnoses, criminal responsibility and everything surrounding this trial, I don’t want us to lose sight of the reason that courtroom exists in the first place: Cora, Dawson, and Callan. I’ll continue following the case and bring you an update when something moves. Content Note: This episode discusses the deaths of children, strangulation, suicide, self-harm, and serious mental illness. EPISODE TRANSCRIPT: 00:06 Welcome to Pushing Up Lilies. I’m your host, Julie Mattson. 00:10 Pushing Up Lilies is a weekly true crime podcast with spine-tingling, unusual, and terrifyingly true stories from my perspective as a forensic death investigator and a sexual assault nurse examiner. 00:24 Do I have some stories for you? Are you ready? Hey, guys, it’s Julie with Pushing Up Lilies. I wanted to tell y’all that I actually went to the North Texas Overdose Awareness Day last night. 00:41 I love that people were getting together and discussing, like, their history of abuse and recovery, and it was just heartwarming to hear their stories. 00:56 And there were a lot of recovery facilities there to provide support. 01:02 And I had a couple of stickers made for the event, and these are gonna be available on my website, but this one is like a Narcan sticker, and this one is overdose awareness, and those are gonna be available on the website. 01:16 I have a ton of cute stickers, y’all. I’m super excited because I designed them all, and so most of them have our website on them. I only have one that have a QR code, but they’re just fun. 01:30 They’re fun. And then also, I don’t know if y’all have seen the tumblers. I’ve got so much stuff on my desk here. The tumblers. So, these super cute Pushing Up Lilies tumblers. 01:41 I believe they’re 16 ounce and lots of fun. Those are also available. 01:47 Now, these are in my store at the Mercantile in Crumb, but they’re also gonna be available at the Murder Mystery Dinner, which again is October 10th at Studio 141 in Crumb, catered by Our Blended Table, my friend Tiana. 02:05 And it’s gonna be fun. It’s gonna be exciting. It’s put on by murdermysterytexas.com. So, I’m looking forward to the actors being there. Very interactive, great meal. 02:18 You’ll get to visit with Jan Bonham. Again, she’s the mother of Kelly Ann Cox, who is the UNT student that was abducted back in 1997 and found murdered in the Houston area. 02:29 So, it’s gonna be a lot of fun. It’s gonna be a fun night, and we’ll get to talk with Jan, and she has been gracious enough to come down from Houston to be my guest. 02:41 And looking forward to that and looking forward to meeting her. Also, I will be at the Day of the Dead Festival, October 24th, as a vendor, and all my merch will be there. 02:52 I will have the comic books. I’ll have all the stickers. I’ll have the T-shirts, and I have a special giveaway sticker. I only have 200 of them, so get to my booth quick. 03:01 But it is a Day of the Dead sticker that I had designed, so I think y’all will love it. Also, I am attending as an exhibitor the Texas EMS Conference. 03:14 Gonna be in Fort Worth in the end of July, at the Omni Hotel. I think I missed out on getting a hotel room at the Omni, which is not good, but I’m not happy about that. But anyway, I’ll get one close by. 03:26 We’ll figure it out. But lots of events coming up. I’m just already looking forward to and looking for events for 2027, and I feel like 2027 we’re gonna blow up, y’all. 03:41 So, if you will share this podcast with your friends, I would so appreciate it. I am so stinking close to 100,000 downloads. 03:50 Like, it’s amazing, and never ever would I have thought that I would be there. I mean, it’s just, it’s nuts to me. I love it, though. I absolutely love it. Also, I’m just trying to think. 04:03 I feel like there’s something else
